This episode goes inside the landmark Santa Marta conference, the first diplomatic gathering where 60 governments met not to debate whether fossil fuels must go, but how to phase them out. Host Herb Simmens speaks with environmental campaigner Tzeporah Berman, chair of the Fossil Fuel Non‑Proliferation Treaty Initiative, about why this meeting was historic and why it finally puts fossil fuel production – not just emissions – at the center of climate diplomacy.
This video was recorded on May 6th, 2026, and published on May 10th, 2026, and represents the opinions of the discussion participants.
Together with regular panelists Paul Beckwith and Dr. Peter Carter, the conversation explores what a planned fossil fuel phase‑out actually looks like: new financial architecture, debt relief for Global South producers, and treaty‑level rules to stop expansion while supporting a just transition for workers and communities. They discuss the push for “real zero” instead of net‑zero loopholes, the political power of the fossil fuel industry, and the growing split between countries that want binding commitments and those who prefer voluntary promises that protect their interests.
Throughout, Berman returns to a central theme: hope is not something we simply have, it is something we create together through action. From youth movements to faith communities and frontline nations, this episode shows how a separate diplomatic track on fossil fuel phase‑out is emerging – and what viewers can do to help build momentum toward the next conference and a fossil‑free future.
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Dr. Peter Carter - MD, Expert IPCC Reviewer and the director of the Climate Emergency Institute.
Paul Beckwith - Climate Systems Scientist. Professor at the University of Ottawa’s Paleoclimatology Laboratory as well as at Carleton University
Herb Simmens - Author, Co-founder of the Healthy Planet Action Coalition (HPAC), Climate Emergency Board Member and former college instructor.
Charles Gregoire - Electrical Engineer, Webmaster and IT prime for FacingFuture.Earth & the Climate Emergency Forum; Climate Reality Leader
Heidi Brault - Climate Reality Leader, BA(Psychology), Library & Information Technician Diploma - Video production and website assistant - Organizer and convener, Metadata technician, COP Team Lead for FacingFuture.Earth and the Climate Emergency Forum.
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